tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post6794802600748523384..comments2024-03-26T21:47:45.016+00:00Comments on MEI's Barry Wills: 600 Mining & Metallurgy researchers in the top 2% of the world's scientistsMEIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14834780351452765156noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-28034092387620836022021-01-21T09:33:41.355+00:002021-01-21T09:33:41.355+00:00At present Scientists and their work is more focus...At present Scientists and their work is more focussed towards citations and Impact factors.To search for this ISI web of science come out with all sorts of permutations and combinations. Several organizations are also exploiting the weakness on these lines and developing softwares to make it more appealing with facts and figures . As Prof Barry hinted that some papers are excellent and have shelf life for years and suddenly a top scientist in that study area cites that publication, other follow like a flock. Sometimes, good work will not even see the light of the day. Hence its very encouraging that Germany and other nations now promote most of scientists to publish in Open Access journals and could be reached by everybody. Here citations doesnt have any role to play.Dr Raju PVS ,CSIR-NGRIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06860162922948322004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-42604772209514030812020-12-28T16:45:53.332+00:002020-12-28T16:45:53.332+00:00I checked and based on those I knew, something aro...I checked and based on those I knew, something around 12-15% of 600 were under 40.I guess, it is an acceptable number. I know these types of rankings have bias and gaps. However, to me it was encouraging, and energized me.<br /><br />Thank Barry for sharing it.Saeed Chehreh Chelganihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499911894926481786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-67421424713993474302020-12-17T18:09:06.765+00:002020-12-17T18:09:06.765+00:00Thanks Hanna. Yes, it is good to see so many miner...Thanks Hanna. Yes, it is good to see so many mineral processors in this listing, but I am still a bit wary of rankings such as this.<br /><br />I have no problem with World Rankings of golfers or tennis players, for instance, as they are all doing exactly the same thing, playing golf or tennis.<br /><br />But mineral processors are not all doing the same thing. Some may be involved with flotation or hydrometallurgy (highly cited), others with magnetic separation (not so highly cited). So there is a bias according to specialties.<br /><br />There is also the problem of age. I haven't analysed this, but it is a fair bet that there won't be that many scientists under 40 in the rankings, as the listing is on total citations received in the scientist's career, the longer the better.<br /><br />However, accepting these limitations, it is still good to see many familiar names in the rankings.MEIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14834780351452765156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-62864922483458553392020-12-17T17:10:08.853+00:002020-12-17T17:10:08.853+00:00Barry, it is great to see so many familiar and res...Barry, it is great to see so many familiar and respected researchers in the field of Mining & Metallurgy. The link allows direct download of the complete list as an MS Excel file.<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bUJrvurVVBbxSl9eFZRSHFif7tt30-5U/view<br /><br />Hanna Horsch<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-5729538568739240632020-12-17T10:52:51.335+00:002020-12-17T10:52:51.335+00:00These kind of calibrated views ( but to the points...These kind of calibrated views ( but to the points you express(as you did now), on some very important "issues" make me feel proud of you and the contents of our Blogs; never censoring/ stooping to publish all views, even if they may be unpleasant to some (unless highly objectionable/with no names)--what I called "freedom pf speech".<br />Tolerating and being too indifferent. inspire of knowing what is good to the profession/society,particularly from scientific/technology community across the world is to be shed.<br />Keep it up, Barry.Rao,T.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11160713677908165404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-77771848084564490242020-12-17T09:52:38.271+00:002020-12-17T09:52:38.271+00:00Yes, I suppose you could call an individual's ...Yes, I suppose you could call an individual's citations a personal Impact Factor, with all its associated faults such a dependency on the field that the researcher is working in. Take a look at the <a href="https://www.journals.elsevier.com/minerals-engineering/most-cited-articles" rel="nofollow">Most Cited Articles</a> in Minerals Engineering for example, and you will see that articles in the dominant areas in our field, flotation and hydrometallurgy, receive the most citations, so it is not surprising that workers in these areas receive the most individual citations for their publications.<br /><br />As to splitting journal impact factors into specialist areas, I think (hope) that there is little chance of that ever happening.MEIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14834780351452765156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6908362959739425575.post-77089022225264261892020-12-17T03:13:16.849+00:002020-12-17T03:13:16.849+00:00I am happy to see the list, as you said"some ...I am happy to see the list, as you said"some of them belonging to our area of interest and getting mentioned in our MEI"".<br />My hearty congratulations to all of them.<br />With no other intention in my mind let me express my views on this "criteria"- I understand it is based on "impact factor"----<br />I also noted your preliminary comments--I agree with you.<br />Now the next question would be how to we compare "impact factor of publications in a given discipline with a "impact factor on practices in that field'--even an attempt in publishing such list in technology and practice may be the next attempt.<br />Flotation was a major change; xanthate,Jamson cell, column flotation--and so on.<br />I hope this would not be difficult if an attempt is made discipline wise and will be great incentive to link "what we publish" to "what we practice"--for me this is also needed along with what has been attempted--very good beginning and appreciated.<br /> in this age of computational tools I feel it would not be difficult if aim of science leads to good to industry and Society.<br />My stray thoughts are to be taken in the way I am looking in this age of "freedom to express" which is rally need of the present for better future.Rao,T.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11160713677908165404noreply@blogger.com